Its the same idiocy theyre speaking now., They havent changed, Coelho, then the head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said of the GOP. While in theory this might have sounded fair, in practice it was, of course, a different sort of subjective and opened the task force to searing criticism as it began to implement the new standard. Fox News has been a cesspool of electoral disinformation, which explains why so many of its viewers believe total fabrications about voter fraud and election integrity. In theBush v. GoreSupreme Court decision in 2000 that stopped the Florida recount and thus handed George W. Bush the presidency Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in his opinion: The counting of votes does in my view threaten irreparable harm to petitioner [George W. Bush], and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he [Bush] claims to be the legitimacy of his election.. Some thoughtful men felt that perhaps the greatest peril that the Republic had encountered was not that of the Civil War but that within a hundred days, people would be cutting each others throats., Of Senator Banning of Ohio, My colleague, Monroe wrote, declared in a speech, that, if the Republicans should attempt to carry out their theory of the election, and if a part of the army with eighty rounds of ammunition, and the navy, should be ordered to support them, then the people would put them all down.. Frank McCloskey and the Democrats in Washington, the ads read, are doing more than just insulting the people of Indiana they are trying to steal an election.. Local News Jan 17, 2023 / 11:06 AM EST. Michael Kruse is a senior staff writer at POLITICO and POLITICO Magazine. Because even power needs a day off. And it starts to matter, and matter a lot, not only who voted and how but who is doing the counting and why. My question is: So what? Thomas said. On Jan. 3, 1985, House Speaker Tip ONeill (left) started to swear in the members old and new, and House Majority Leader Jim Wright (right) spoke up to stop him. | Following the 2020 general election, Fox News hosts rarely pushed back on Trump's dangerous lies of a stolen election. It got nationwide news coverage, although it was presented merely as average Floridians expressing outrage. Piggybacking on the apparent GOP outrage in Florida, five Republican appointees on the US Supreme Court stopped that then-already-ongoing recount of the Florida vote, something that had never before happened in US history. [A] switch of only some 43,000 votes in three states (Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona) would have reversed the outcome.This is why Republicans at the state level have supported laws to make it difficult for Biden or another Democrat to replicate the 2020 electoral map.Also reaping lots of money from the Stop the Steal narrative is conservative cable television networks and talk radio shows, as well as entrepreneurs who after the election created new web sites where they solicited online donations. IP, Activitatea de rsfoire i cutare cnd folosii site-urile web i aplicaiile Yahoo. Reporter. They ought not to be counted., Clay, the other Democrat, concurred. Only if the ratio by chance happens not to need rounding does the calculated number of votes line up with reality, like it does in the third row. Legal Statement. [I]f no person have such majority, the 12th Amendment says, then the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. There is no better case to demonstrate how and how not to conduct a recount, according to The Recount Primer, a seminal 1994 self-published book by a trio of recount-specialist attorneys two of whom worked on behalf of McCloskey and all of whom worked for Al Gore in Florida. The task force audit had made the result even closer and less certain. Democrat Samuel Tilden won the popular vote nationwide but, with 184 electoral votes, was one vote short of the then-necessary 185 electoral votes to become president. McCloskey jumps ahead three votes, a headline read on April 11. In 2020, by contrast, the Court said No, so mainstream media clearly saw and reported that Biden had won the election. Republicans recriminations ramped up even more. ", Trump added: "So go home, we love you, you're very special, youve seen what happens, youve seen the way others are treated that are so bad, so evil. The committee played video from an interview with . He lost by 7 million actual votes and 74 electoral votes. President Trump took it to court, and it lost. Thats the system, right? Hed probably have to defend it. (Panetta declined to comment.). He is a writing fellow at the Independent Media Institute. Lead Stories co-founderMaarten Schenk is our resident expert on fake news and hoax websites. Satellite internet is going mainstream. Throughout the ordeal of 2000, which ultimately ended when Republican attorneys landed on the reasoning of equal protection that came to the minds of some partly because of Indiana 8, an array of those who had been involved in 1985 invoked its specter. This stealing of a seat, Vander Jagt pledged, would create a stench that will permeate our every deliberation., The Capitol building on Jan. 13, 1985, 10 days after what would become a turning point in the history of U.S. elections. Financial contributions from our readers are a critical part of supporting our resource-intensive work and help us keep our journalism free for all. Republican Rutherford B. Hayes not only lost the popular vote but had only 163 uncontested electoral votes. A party-line vote said both men would be paid until the dispute was resolved and empaneled the three-person task force headed by Panetta, a Democrat from California who had started his political career as a Republican before switching parties in 1971 and was considered by many of his colleagues to be markedly even-handed; Clay, a Democrat and the first Black representative from Missouri and one of the founding members of the Congressional Black Caucus; and Bill Thomas, a Republican from California who later would be a Ways and Means committee chair. Its a red river, Vanderburgh County Council candidate Karen Reising told me this past election night. At 28, he was a fresh-faced, photogenic attorney, a two-term state representative seen by GOP shot callers in Washington as a conservative up-and-comer. The dynamics could make GOP primaries particularly relevant next year. I didnt think this at the time, but in retrospect, I think the House should have ordered a special election at that point, Chris Sautter, a McCloskey aide in 84, an attorney whose expertise in recounts had started growing in 85, McCloskeys campaign manager in 86 and one of the three authors of The Recount Primer, told me. Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Orderrespect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. MEXICO CITY (AP) Authorities said Tuesday that they had unearthed 10 dismembered bodies from under the floor of an events hall in central Mexico. But at the same time, Fox also has to keep its programming palatable to enough Americans to justify the advertising and affiliate fees that make it the key driver in an enterprise worth some $20 billion. In Georgia, Trump is supporting Rep. Jody Hice in a Republican primary to oust Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of state who resisted Trumps pressure to rig the states 2020 vote in his favor. Moreover, Democrats had questions about thousands of votes that had been tossed out because of errors made by poll workers, not voters, that amounted to technicalities (especially important when the margin was almost infinitesimally close). Three times House Republicans tried to seat McIntyre at least provisionally until the task force was done with its job. Henry J. Gomez is a senior national political reporter for NBC News. But the rest of his answer surprised me. "But go home and go home in peace," he said. Of course, said Bucshon, who didnt vote to impeach Trump but also didnt vote to object to the certification of the Electoral College counts in Pennsylvania and Arizona. Democrats immediately sue before the Supreme Court, but for the second time in history the Court awards the presidency to the Republican who lost the popular vote amid a contested Electoral College vote. Trump supporters to rally in DC ahead of Electoral College certification vote, George Santos denies scamming disabled veteran by raising money for their dog's cancer treatment, As historic numbers of migrants cross the border, their dogs are often left behind, Elites in Davos strategize on how to fight right-wing' groups: Hit back, American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp accused in lawsuit of groping 'John Doe' political aide. Ohios Republican Congressman James Monroe (not related to the president of generations earlier of the same name) wrote the definitive summary of that election and how it played out in Congress, a narrative he published inthe Atlanticin October 1893. Now they were also a new sort of jaded. The trouble was some of them were, because some county clerks had sent 62 of them to precincts, meaning they already had been among the mix of the counted. It is not your fault; it is their fault, Foxs Tucker Carlson said last night in his opening monologue, arguing that millions of Americans sincerely believe the last election was fake., I encourage you all to watch this Tucker Carlson monologue about what happened in DC tonight. But the task force Democrats in the House had set into motion effectively ignored this result. Wright said Republicans had whipped themselves into a synthetic frenzy. ONeill said the GOPs rhetoric was ranting and raving and hypocritical pleading., Is this just another political argument? Jim Lehrer said that night on PBS in an interview with Guy Vander Jagt. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Slectionnez Grer les paramtres pour grer vos prfrences. ", He added: "But you have to go home now. Quiet hiring and the endless quest to coin terms about work. POLITICO Weekend delivers gripping reads, smart analysis and a bit of high-minded fun every Friday. Nobody understands the disaster of the lack of election integrity like the people of Georgia, and now is our hour to take it back, Hice told the crowd after Trump invited him on stage at his rally last month in the state. Apparently, denying the presidency to Al Gore, the guy who actually won the most votes in Florida and won the popular vote nationwide by over a half-million, did not constitute irreparable harm to Scalia or the media. Because if that falls apart, the whole thing falls apart.. Here's an example we created in Excel for a hypothetical election with candidates A and B: The first two columns show the actual vote counts, the next two show the ratio with the default nine-digit precision in Excel. The Republican said yes. Investigators said around 1 a.m. Saturday, Polk County deputies were called to a Davenport home for complaints of fighting . He called this the distinguishing feature.. Now he was talking like Gingrich. Youll see literal war in the House, he said in his office in an interview with NBC Nightly News. Bart Everson via Wikimedia Commons, Coelho asked me to go in, said Jim Margolis, the former senior adviser to Barack Obama who back then was a twentysomething Democratic operative. This, then, on Jan. 3, 1985, was House Resolution 1, the formal start of a new Congress but it was the beginning of something much, much larger, too. Will it be enough to stay in the United States? Twitter's " civic integrity policy " says it will. These were held separately, Panetta explained at the hearing. A margin of four votes. Now, facing the fatal consequence . They were corrupt, out of control and dangerous, Newt Gingrich said of Democrats when we talked last month. Please consider making a one-time contribution to Vox today. Im not CNN, but Im gonna call it, he said. All of which puts even more pressure on Fox News to cater to its most unhinged and dangerous viewers if theyre not getting what they want from Tucker and co., there are plenty of options just a click away. I'm the only candidate in this race who's willing to stand up all over Ohio, and all over America, and say that I believe the election was stolen from Donald J. Trump, Josh Mandel, a Republican Senate candidate in Ohio who has made the stolen election lie central to his campaign, told NBC News. This development drew from some of the Republicans in the room a murmur of boos and discontent. | In this case, one extra vote for A in the real vote count makes it appear B lost around 4000 votes in the calculated number (while A only gains a fraction of a vote). He is the best president. [I]t would have been as unsatisfactory to Republicans to have the vote declared by the House, wrote Monroe, as it would have been to Democrats to have it declared by the President of the Senate., The situation was serious, Monroe wrote. Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat who is running for governor in 2022, believes there is an appetite for accountability that has elevated secretaries of state like her who have pushed back on GOP election lies. Trump claimed that the election was "stolen" in part by a voting equipment and software company, Dominion Voting Systems, he suggested is biased against him and also has "bum equipment." Facts. I dont think weve ever seen anything like this.. It got only murkier from there. Millions spent on lobbyists, a billion spent on safeguards. As of Tuesday morning, no suspect has been arrested. Larry Bucshon!, If 1984 (and 85) was the longest, most painful election night ever, as former McCloskey aide John Goss put it to me, this surely must have been the utter opposite. If that breaks down, there are no rules anymore, and it becomes a dog-eat-dog battle., Frenzel accused him and the rest of the Democrats in the House of some kind of crime., The big lie, Thomas said, is that there is any question over who won.. Leon Panetta (top) led the panel, and he was joined by fellow Democrat Bill Clay and Republican Bill Thomas. Because there is no way to calculate an exact vote count for a candidate based on a rounded percentage and the total vote count. If youve been serving a steady diet of red meat, your customers wont suddenly accept chicken or tofu. Now, they should tell viewers it wasn't stolen. The 1984 race for Indianas Bloody 8th trained a generation of politicians in the scorched-earth tactics of recounts. And theres always human error on the part of a certain number of voters who manage not to follow directions or otherwise muddy their intentions on their ballots. Solomon Pena, 39, was arrested Monday [] How do we know? He would be a Supreme Court justice by the end of the month. If you didn't make it to Saturday's. I just knew in my heart that I had the vote counts on my desk, and I thought, Im not gonna wait on this.. The task force put it to a vote. Please consider making a one-time contribution to Vox today. I was at the Democrats local gathering at the IBEW Local 16 union hall on the outskirts of Evansville. This is not a call to understand or have compassion for Trump voters. TRUMP SLAMS PENCE, SAYS HE 'DIDN'T HAVE THE COURAGE' TO DECERTIFY ELECTION RESULTS. It was pretty clear they were gonna count, Halloran said, until their guy won., Republican members wore buttons that said "Thou Shalt Not Steal" after McCloskey had finally been declared the victor in April, shown above in the bottom left among a collection of buttons from the 1984 and 1986 Indiana 8 campaigns. You can also contribute via, Fox News wants its viewers angry enough to watch but not angry enough to riot, This story is part of a group of stories called. Because voters think the presidential election was stolen. Ex-Trump adviser Steve Bannon seeks to change attorneys in fundraising fraud case Echoing Jan. 6, he also told reporters the recent Brazil election was "stolen." By Aaron Katersky January 12, 2023, 10:29 AM 0:29 Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon claims Brazilian election was 'stolen' In this sense, 2020 has been different than any contest since the Civil War, as President Trump continues to claim that President-elect Joe Biden "stole" the election from him even though 538. Liz Cheney (@Liz . Fox would spend four years riling up viewers, have at least succeeded in worrying Fox employees, unhinged conspiracy theories like QAnon thrive unchecked. He understandably had eyes on the coattails of Ronald Reagan. They note: Did Governor Jeb Bush, his Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and her Director of Elections, Clayton Roberts, know they had wrongly barred 22,000 Black, Democrat voters before the elections? Rep. Larry Bucshon (R-Ind.) Did a Democrat leak the Biden filegate scandal to the press? During a Tuesday hearing on new restrictive election laws passed by state legislatures, Republican senators decried a . The afternoon newspaper, the Evansville Press, said the (unofficial) counting was done and now McIntyre was on top by 196. The popular president that year won in a landslide, of course, over Walter Mondale, and won easily, too, in the 8th district of Indiana. Carrie Kahn is NPR's International Correspondent based in Mexico City, Mexico. Formerly enslaved African Americans were trying to turn out large numbers of voters for the Republican candidate, but there was also widespread Klan activity suppressing that Black vote. Officials appointed by Mayor Evans at the meeting were Mark Miley, city clerk; Suzonne Cowart, [], Catholic High head football coach David Simoneaux has been named Athletic Director for the Central Community School System and head football coach at Central High School. THE FACTS: To be clear, no widespread corruption was found and no election was stolen from Trump. And, just like in 1876, when you exclude the contested states neither candidate hits the 50%-plus-one electoral votes needed (now 270) to win the White House. The big city machines are corrupt. Spotted something? While processing the mail, deputies found the stolen mail contained many election ballots for the Nov. 6 election, as well as property tax, medical and bank statements. Americans shouldnt stand for this!. Biden earned 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232, the same margin that Trump had when he beat. Republicans added that because the 12th Amendment also says that The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the [electoral] votes shall then be counted that the president of the Senate should be the one to make the call as to which states contested votes were legitimate. That includes Stan . Up until this point, Indiana 8 could have been seen as not so different than any other close, contested election. Rick Thompson was hanging an American flag behind the stage with a lectern with a poster of a donkey. But they became scrambled at the precinct level, Panetta stressed. It is too bad. Informaii despre dispozitivul dvs. I asked him about Indiana 8. This threatens beyond anything that has ever happened before in the House of Representatives the relationship of the two parties, said Jack Kemp, the conference chair. If we dont solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020, Republicans will not be voting in 22 or 24, Trump said in an emailed statement Wednesday. Theyre setting us up for 2024.. I know how you feel.". In that sense, Indiana marked the beginning of extreme partisanship in elections and recounts., Indiana 8, Sandstrom concluded, was the recount that changed recounts forever. But that isnt what happened, he said. Hes right about our relationship to them. I am retiring and taking some time to enjoy life. And the Supreme Court may again play an illegitimate role in it all. Everybody else, though? THERE'S A POLITICAL DIMENSION TO THIS that affects all of us whether we go to New Orleans or not. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. For information about our privacy practices, please visit our website. Ultimately, too, Indiana 8 anticipated the Donald Trump-led talk of Stop the Count and Stop the Steal in 2020 and 2022 that reverberates still heading toward 2024. It turns out that the North Shore Leader, a local Long Island newspaper, did raise questions about Rep.-elect George Santos (R-NY) before the election, the Washington Post reports: "It was. A Republican congressman running for U.S. Senate in Missouri has released a 30-second ad that falsely claims the 2020 election was "rigged" and "stolen" from former President Donald Trump. Nous, Yahoo, faisons partie de la famille de marques Yahoo. They may believe you. Its the right thing to do for our country, Mandel added, when asked if he worried his position might hurt him in a general election. The meal always includes meat or seafood with two sides, homemade [], As I leave office after 30 years of public service dating back to 1992, there are many people I am proud to call friends in our city and in other governmental agencies. What Trump and the GOP are creating is a serious and immediate legitimacy crisis, by convincing millions of rank-and-file Republicans not just that the 2020 election was stolen from them but. Dont waste any sympathy on them. It may seem hard to believe, but there remains a hard-core group of partisans who still insist that a presidential election was stolen and that the victor is "illegitimate.". Trump's own Justice Department as well as his former attorney general, William Barr, found no evidence of widespread fraud. He is the author ofLandmark Debates in Congress: From the Declaration of Independence to the War in Iraq, andLandmark Legislation: Major U.S. Acts and Treaties 1774-2012. For the rest of the year and into the next, Republicans tried in federal court to overturn the outcome, arguing in part on grounds of equal protection and due process the terrain on which the Supreme Court would put a halt to the recount in Florida in 2000. Learn more about Mailchimp's privacy practices here. They should at least be consistent, he said. | Twitter, asked by this news organization Monday about Geller's tweet claiming the election was stolen, said it would look into the matter. Now, facing the fatal consequence of that lie a riot at the US Capitol that left at least four people dead Americas most popular news network is telling its viewers the events were sad but also understandable. The presidents video comes as Republicans and Democrats alike slammed him for not condemning the violence that erupted on Capitol Hill during a joint session of Congress to certify the results of the presidential election. It all came together during this controversy.. A carbon copy, Mike Vandeveer, the mayor of Evansville in 84 and 85, told me recently, of those images out of Palm Beach County., Broward County canvassing board member Judge Robert Rosenberg uses a magnifying glass to examine a disputed election ballot in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. on Nov. 24, 2000. Newt went from, he explained, being kind of the bomb-throwing back bencher who was going to remain on the fringe of Republican politics and his ideas kept moving him steadily toward the majoritarian position in the House Republican conference. And in the wee hours of the morning of election night that year, Sautter got a call from the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee. That little bit of info was slipped into the seventeenth paragraph of the Times story so that it would attract as little attention as possible because the 9/11 attacks had happened just weeks earlier and journalists feared that burdening Americans with the plain truth that George W. Bush actually lost the election would further hurt a nation already in crisis. Market data provided by Factset. The allegations of voter fraud are more about defining a set of beliefs for a political tribe than it is about persuasiveness, trying to persuade a group about the utility of their vote, Persily said. And thats what they did. Is the difference in where they have been physically located sufficient to treat them entirely differently?, These became scrambled when they went to the precincts. This, a McCloskey aide told reporters at the time, rendered the recount essentially meaningless. Coelhos characterization was even more heated. Fringe networks like OANN and Newsmax have tried their best to make Fox look middle of the road, and have at least succeeded in worrying Fox employees about a competitive threat. The typically mild-mannered McCloskey was aghast, calling it a political action and a dereliction., McCloskey and McIntyre are both deceased McCloskey died in 2003, McIntyre in 2007 but Simcox is still alive. ", The president, just after 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday when the city-wide curfew began for Washington D.C., again told protesters to "go home. You can reach her at Brooke.Singman@Fox.com or @BrookeSingman on Twitter. REPORTER: A vehicle stolen Friday may be linked to multiple crimes in northeast, including the murder of 19-year-old Devin Brewer. That group of people, I just tell them, when they ask me, Im just, like, Look, yes, there might have been some issues because of Covid, and changing the rules at the last minute and all that but it went to court. McIntyre-McCloskey couldnt have been more different. 2023 Central City News. Calling the Democrats thugs and slime, warning of anarchy and casting the House as a rotting carcass of democracy, Republicans at the Capitol stormed out as McCloskey was sworn in the first such walkout in 95 years. Democrats had a slipping but still unassailable majority in the House of some 70 seats. A Suffolk University poll released Wednesday found that about 58 percent of registered voters in California say they want Newsom to continue as governor. They wanted to weep. In next years races for governor and secretary of state, for Congress and all the way down to state legislative seats, Republicans eager for Trumps support have embraced these baseless claims. The presidents tweets come as pro-Trump protesters stormed the Capitol, sending Congress into recess as they attempted to certify the results of the presidential election in favor of President-elect Joe Biden. 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