His name was Logan. She is my baby! I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. Some have went on to shows. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong. Studies have proven that this breed of dog is very unique. They have a personality unlike any other dog, if you had ever owned one you would understand. Shepherds are excellent at herding, which is their purpose. He is a great dog and slowly filling DINOs paw prints. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. Secondly White dobermans are more healthy than the fawn and blues. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! PS, I dont own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. She was rehomed due to biting a child in the family. shame on you who would cull a white pup, just because it is white. These cream, or as some say white ones, were first documented in the 1920s as being a dirty or apricot color. Mom kept saying that she didnt like Dobermans and Chantelle would sit next to her and lay her head on her lap looking up at her. with that. Namely you. Doberman happen to be developed by a German breeder named Karl Friedrich Louis Doberman. I have a fawn male and a white female, whos previous owner relinquished her to us. All of which are not albinoid. Killing white pups at birth doesnt remove the z factor from the line, which is clearly evident. I currently have two dogs: a purebred red nose pitbull male and a chocolate brindle female pit lab mix. Ive had dobies of every color except fawn. Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrands Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding. In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. North. Im sure there was some possibility that he was mixed, but he didnt look it. Also when you see a wonderfully behaved dobe in public, ask the owner what breeder its from. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. All Dobermans can be gentle with kids if raised the correct way. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. More >>, Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Contact. You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isnt a terrible act. People would come a far away to get one of her dogs. The white doberman I kept has never had any health problems in the four years I have owned her. My last one was the love of my life The perfect dog for me. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are rare. He had not sight problems. As far as the akc lots of dogs that ar registered with them now did not start out with them they accept new breeds all the time. Love your dog and I will Love mine! He rescued us just as much as we rescued him. The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, which is a light brownish-red hair coloring. meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . She is 7 month old and so beautiful. i currently own 3 whites (spayed/neutered) and couldnt be more pleased. The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. Usually, the average cost of purchasing a pet quality puppy from a reputable breeder is about $1,200 to $2,500. To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. The funny part comes in with all the responsible breeders implying that their dogs werent inbred 1000 times to get to the breed standard. Lets use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! I am sure you didnt know about the z factor before hand and it should say on its AKC papers that there is NO Z FACTOR in its bloodline if it comes from quality breeders. He had a very nice temperament also. The youngest was 13 . MONEY. I am looking for a PPD because I have a medical condition in which I feel I will need one in the future for my son and myself after a recent experience I have had. Glad I came to this site. WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones YOU ARE A DISGRACE. just because they are white does not mean you should not get them, albino does not mean they are bad. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. They cannot be shown and you will NEVER EVER find a Champion Albino Doberman. Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. I will eventually get another dobie but I need to get past loosing Galileo. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. If one does choose a shelter dog tho, they must be spayed or neutered before u can bring them home. How sad and pitiful are you ? These are all actual facts BTW We visit our vet often. A little stubborn and head strong, but quick to pick up new things. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? While the above persons grammar and spelling IS rather poor, the words being spoken are not stupid, but true. A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Dobermans temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me? My fawn does have skin allergies, but we are able to keep it under control, with no hair loss and his coat is shiny. It does that to almost everybody. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. Average $1200 - $2500 USD. She has always lived inside out of the sun. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. They were taught you give kisses no bite. To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to insecure white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. [2] The Dobermann has a long muzzle. Thank u so much for your response. I got her when I was two years of age and she just recently died. Dobie Ranch Rescue and Doberman rescue of Lake Placid are also two good rescues. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. Protection come automatic , you just have to learn to control it . it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. The medical condition is a specific need as stated and I feel the two breeds are a good mix in temperament Wiems have keen senses and good temperament around kids and people these dogs were bred to stay close to their owners when hunting, they are good breeds that were bred to be in the house as well as accompany their owners outside hunting they are a royal working dog class. I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. She is also not fixed. Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. Alert. Probably because my love of my Wiems. The problem happens when inexperienced people dont invest in the tests that are necessary to find out which individuals gene pool, either should or should not be crossed, with another. In a survey on this website, we asked visitors which color was their favorite. my family and I are very invested in this puppy his name is Einstein and Id hate to back out on this because weve already grown quite attached to him. I am grateful he is as the breed was intended. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. Then another $1000 for ophthalmologist.. in the end he came out ok with the saved eye. Hate to tell you though, they are just that FACTS. Writer, have you never seen a Chihuahua? Had the test shown anything suspicious, the next step would have been a holtor test. Very nice. We lost 3 German shepherds in 11 months, 2 with in 48 hours of one another. We have had white dobie who had many health problems such as Addisons disease, fear biter,Couldnt seeand Blue dobie who was the most beautiful boy Ive ever seen. Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. Breeding her white dobie would be just as wrong as I would have been, if I had bread myslightly less than perfectdobie! That is most definitely venom and passion. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. U sound like an idiot! if you get one and have it dna tested it may or may not be from Shebahs bloodline. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. the thing is..if u breed an isabella with a red rustmy red rusts mom is also an isabella a white dobe might come out.which happened to me..they r not even relatives!..my white dobbie now is 7 yrs old..hes got no defects at allhes got 2 balls,perfect eyesight..both eyes testedno hearing defect..very clean stomach,very nice coat..his coat is a lil rough..not the usual ones dat is very flat on d skin, i did a stress test for him and he passed.. my other dobes r mad with cats most dogs i guess hehe but my white dobbie is friendly even with my hamster..:D i also have a cat and he goes along good with hermy other dobbies dont, i seriously cannot consider him a fault..as he can do what my other dobes canHE IS BETTER actually..temperament wise..i can say my dobbie isnt as troubleome as my other normalcolored dobes..not agressive..its like i own a shihtzu hahaha..:D:D, Id never say to put down a doberman that is born with the defect of being white but this dog must be spayed or neutered as soon as possible and never bred. We nursed her for 2 months and then gave in to euthanize her. thankyou Anthony, we need to do whats best for the breed in the long term and Im pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage. Neither are purebreds. She has several very healthy cream ones and after having one lab-tested the results came back with no classification of albino whatsoever. How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. Wish the health on my Black/rust dogs over the years were as good as my Cream/white. Ppl should not be breeding these animals. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. My question is how long ago did you have your dobes skin cancer removed, Im just looking for some possitive info as I cant afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. For example, when my dobby at the his last year got arthrit, my bill was some more $500, but I received back from insurance $430 in couple weeks. I have seen heathly specimens of ALL of the colors and Ive seen all of the colors have health or temperament issues. Well said sir. Yeaaaah. My interest is in the fawn doberman the blue and silver fawn seem to have caught my attention for this type of dog. So beautifully rare. Im not certain where you are located. They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. I have had three remake black and rust. Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. I so totally agree with you. Dont know how, but here I am. If I did nothing he would have lost his left eye also there were only 3 dog ophthalmologists in the state of SC and had to subsequently go to Charleston, SC for his therapy to try and save his eye! However, for a Doberman Pinscher puppy with top breed lines and a superior pedigree, you may need to pay between $3,500 and $5,000. But he is, and always will be, the dog we loved the most. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries or a mans testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didnt think you should have children? Pricy, but it was worth our peace of mind. We just adopted a Red Doberman coming up on her 5th birthday. I agree that the albino is in her gene poolbut, she is NOT an albino. my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself. I dont think so. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream. This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. Ive seen mine run circles around other breeds here like the Labs. Curious about the White Doberman you mention. Thank you for your post. These black Dobermans are not part of the official standard for the breed. Get yourself another color. So please before you make some uneducated snarky reply again please refrain from your own ignorance! Albinos do NOT have a color gene. When the very first white Dobermans were discovered due to a mutation, they would breed brother and sister white Dobermans together to make more white Dobermans. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. Now everyone take a moment and lets think about how long dobs have been around ? In 2018 Bella past away in my arms at age 8 of a heart attack. How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in its ignorance, it is also alarming. Recently lost our beloved 12 year old stroke and cardiac arrest and we have been so very devastated. i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow? Thanks. Sorry Evilboo all of that was intended for TexasJul. Thanks so much! With regards to the white albino Dobermanns, Im not sure what the hoo-hah is surrounding them? So do I . I would have wanted male white doberman and female from different nests, in Europe I can not find. I dont want to see an outstanding breed tarnished by this uneducated, irresponsible behavior. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep. Think I will be posting for advice as soon as we know more. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. Ive had Dobies for over 40 years! Its a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because youre saving the animal giving it a healthier life. Think I talked to Tabetha. common sense be damned. Thank you for all your great comments. Thats the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. There is alot of controversy on this subject. Hope you will sell me your dog. I have two Dobermans both female a red/rust and white/cream. God bless. I purchased a red puppy whose dad is red and mom is white. Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. Her mother Aries-color-Black/Rust. do you think white tigers should continue to be bred, as well? Brian, The white coloring of a Doberman IS the result of a genetic mutation. Also, consumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. Ok, But i would not recommand to buy a white. Smh . Thanks. Ya white blue and fawn should never be purposly bred Every since american breeders got there hands on a dobermann they have ruined the breed.. Now we have dilluted colors, whites, everyone of these types are prine to skin issues at the very least. Oversize in both the US and in Europe. The term "Doberman Pinscher" is primarily used in the United States and Canada while "Doberman" is used in the rest of the world. Evidently, lurking somewhere in the deep recesses on Dobe genetics, there is a (resessive) gene for longer hair. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. the cause is called interbreeding. it seems like common sense that you should never ever breed a white doberman ! People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Both are great but only with a reputable breeder. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans. That is why the AKC registers them (albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful). Doctors say it is very possible that nothing has spread and the treatment really isnt going to add that much time for the cost and has no real guarantee. Just an update Duchess turned 1 on October 1st and has exceeded good health. He was almost human in his intelligence, and it was a sneaky intelligence to boot. Want to make sure we do right by her, and Im realizing we know a lot less than I thought we did. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. 4. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns whats expected in its new house. Reginald, He's A Purebred Doberman Haversham | I love Harry Potter, books,supernatural,etc , WHEN THE TRASH BE SENDING. Where is the Tennessee rescue.. Im not on Facebook but would like to get in touch with them. This is natural. Brenda. Although, inbreeding would explain your human shortcomings. Anyone who wants to buy an albino doberman, please visit the Doberman Pincher Club of America and read on the Albino Doberman. Well, except for those pesky squirrels. our first family dog was a red he grew up with my 3 boys he was a loyal campaign and friend to them. I dont know how many ppl have asked if Im breeding my dogs, I want to look at them like are you crazy? Theyre all so different its really hard to say its all or nothing on these sweet animals. Their mothers are forced to have what they dont want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. ?Too much puppy for us (as we well knew when we decided on her), but we are all learning to adapt. Be a RESPONSBLE pet owner if your love your fur baby. You have two dog, who has one black allel and one white. No. Use it or loose it. Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. What makes these supposed pure breds any better than the mutts? Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish. When we walk in our little town, shes a rock star. Please dont justify ignorant human actions and behavior with a book and history that you have proved you have no comprehension of. However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. Especially when they may need more medical care. We do limit her time in the sun as you would with any fair skin mammals, like me. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. This is classic snobbery! But I surmised that a low dosage daily would be better. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. if there is something wrong with it, its not because of its color. It Do not let smooth talking greeders convince you. 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