It is ok to believe someone to be entirely incorrect but as soon as you attack credibility by saying someone is using the word just as Satan did you make a leap in ad hominem attacks instead of simply refuting with your interpretations of facts. . As in the rest of the entire New Testament, there is NO direct teaching of old covenant keeping here. If this article blessed you and you want to bless back, you can (NOTE: For instant access to the special Supporter content, please use the buttons over here instead.). Jeremiah was also concerned that the Jews placed too much emphasis on the outward but did not have a circumcised heart . Was it just because Or did Moses have a relationship AND obeyed the Creator? Bear a false testimony against your neighbor? All I needed to do was to receive the Lord Yeshua into my heart and recognize his atoning death and resurrection in order to be saved, making him the Lord of my life. and we saw his Shkhinah, When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. I start by praying for protection and then ask for wisdom and for the truth to be clear. I only found 119 ministries about a year or so AFTER the Holy Spirit lifted the veil off my eyes and they are RIGHT ON!!!! As Dale Carnegie said A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.. The works of Abraham was not only circumcision, but in fact, the whole Torah. If the Architect is also the owner of the building, there are 3 stages. Are you saying that the Levitical priests and system of sacrifice is no longer applicable? 119 Ministries is the Hebrew Roots ministry of Jon Sherman and Steve Moutria. The red flags are when your pastor asks for money and calls it tithing. More than once, I have addressed them, both privately and publicly. Jesus made example of this when reciting the beatitudes. You need both parts to understand what law hes referring to when. (what does Satan, I mean Santa have to do with anything, except NOTHING, or Easter, one of the many names of Mithraism and the eggs dipped in the blood of your sacrificed infant to YOUR god, Molech) Its Sun-god worship. Shalom. The qualifications for Messiah are found in the first Testament btw. There does not, need to be multiple choices in order to defend their position of defense, even if there are others. They were taught to me and my family by a Pentecostal pastor who studied in Israel from the very places that Jesus taught. For many centuries, Christians have been wrongly taught, thanks primarily to Replacement Theology, that in order for my people to accept our Messiah, we had to become Gentiles by adopting their ways, which usually went completely contrary to what the Torah teaches. If you believe you have liberty of these things then so be it, dont obey. I think it's the oddness of their Hebrew Roots/Torah keeping position that makes people say that, maybe coupled with their unusual move to Costa Rica. But the Holy Spirit can instruct *my heart* & others in the moment, at a heart level Torah cannot ever reach, because Jesus came to make this part of how the new covenant works. Hmmmm.. YHWH is salvation / Messiah is salvation / YHWH=salvation=Jesus therefore Messiahs commands are Gods commands and vice versa. Then I came across a Pentecostal one who admitted the same thing but he went TO Israel to study for himself and now teaches about the feast days of God and how Jesus is in the details. Three issues were presented for you to think on, yet you responded to only one. It would mean Yehsua obeyed the church and made his will subservient to the churches will, which is an act of worship. I am, however, sick and tired of watching the majority of Christians being manipulated by the Adversary, who takes enormous pleasure in using many of you to hurt my people and keep us as far away as possible from the truth about our Messiah. Youre following the interpretations of a man, instead of following the Scriptures. to complete He was a tent maker. Why do you think the apostles had to write so many letters? I believe myself to be led by the Holy Spirit and believe Jesus to be the only way to Salvation and to know the father. He mentions this: The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. (vs 10). In fact if you were to read these you would think you are reading quotes from Paul recorded in these epistles to the different Churches. Maybe you can. (Hasnt anyone every wondered why there were so many OTHER groups such as the disabled, gypsies etc who were ALSO murdered at Hitlers hand, yet get no sympathy or mention whatsoever?). The truth as presented by the whole word of God, Genesis-Revelation, the fallacy of needing to follow the law under the new covenant, and illogical hugeness of Gods grace. 17 Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. And in the whole discourse of John 14 where Jesus is talking about He & the Father being one, Jesus never once mentions obeying Torah. Torah was passed on orally. I found many all thru scriptures, Gods speech very Descriptive! We have found returning to the Way nothing short of freeing and could only wish more believers would dare to try and love Yahweh according to the WAY He commands usnothing more and nothing less. At best some think going to church is the way but their hearts are far from God. Many english words have their origin in latin , greek and of course hebrew I say Amen out of tradition but I also say Let it be so Sean I am not against understanding some Hebrew for the meanings of the words are obviously important just as in english. I appreciate that 119 Ministries provides transcripts. 1 Cor. Here we see that after salvation that we are to DO righteousness which is obeying the commandments of God. Who ever teaches men to go against his ways, will be considered the least in the kingdom. And Rav Kefa never would have supported Shaul as a fellow member of the Messianic Community if that had been the case. I know we have different theology and perhaps different perception of the truth but LET US ALL GIVE IT a chance and TEST IT with the word of God. I havent watched any of their videos in a while. I believe 119 ministries to teach using accurate breakdown/interpretation of scripture. Also the Greek borrowing the Alef-Bet and core structures in root etymology. The fact that you would proclaim all these to be true and box them all up nice and neat and call them the moral laws of God and leave it at that is what people like 119 ministries is trying to point out. Also look up what the Catholic church actually states about itself and how they changed the Sabbath. Really, what are those against HR afraid of? Im afraid that youll have to wait for the Wedding Feast of the Lamb for that silver or gold platter that youve been waiting for to materialize. I have personally discussed issues with these men and I disagree with some things and others they are right on point scripturally, historically, and otherwise. From all i read and hear from them it is borderline cult at the least heretical teaching. We believe that we are to teach all nations to obey the Torah (Law of God). GotQuestions.org is a ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. And they are hostile toward Christians who call Jesus their Savior but attend traditional church. What a powerful and thorough rebuttal and summary. Cant get much more Hebrew Roots than that. It is laying out a proper way to interact and not create senseless arguments since it is teaching, discipleship, love and the Holy Spirit that will guide so long as a person wants to continue growing in her relationship with the Father. He only did the will of the Father. But I am. Just because the criminals record is wiped clean, does not mean he can now go break the law all he wants. He mentioned two dad man rising how did he know thats in Revelation The Startling lack of self awareness there mate. I Accept Yeshua is the Messiah and he never spoke against Torah because he would be speaking against himself. I am not of Jewish heritage or seminary trained. Galatians is a great place to start, by the way. this was the Covenant of Sinai. Chapter 3 is golden. Follow Leah, dont follow THE Creator It was preached from the pulpit a few weeks ago. This is why people who take the Bible seriously cannot take YOU seriously, Pete. the Torah was given at Sinai, it was given so it could be written down. I submit if it is abolished then what rule to we measure against? I hope it is received of this is why I believe I am correct. Messiah sent us the Holy Spirit. I am not positive, but I believe 119 Ministries falls more along the lines of when Jesus said, I came not to bring peace but a sword in Matt. This verse in its twisted form, became one of the crown jewels of a lawless version of Christianity which incorrectly teaches that it is the Torah itself that is decaying and is near to disappearing, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Yea, so many problems start when you do that. Remote tribes in countries where the people groups are simple do not need to be taught Hebrew to understand the gospel: they need to be introduced to the living God who will lead them into all truth. I appreciate your comment. You would do well to truly study these things rather than speak about your opinions. THAT name means YHWH is salvation. Now this has been taught for many decades but does scripture actually teach this or is this a doctrine of men? Ephesians 2:13-15. Teaching strict obedience to the law of Moses according to the New Covenant of Jesus Christ is where my inner spirit becomes troubled! Ps depending on the particular situation, Christ thru me expels or can take control of demons inside others either in public or private. It appears you never knew Christ Jesus and He never knew you. I would say to some of the people writing here like the pastor trying to fix a person for following the way the Father has laid out i.e. There is no place in civil court for Gods people. Then you will truly receive a gift from God. The blood of goats and calves was a symbolic picture of the blood bought, prophesied and glorious New Covenant of grace we are born again into!!!!! By the way, a Judaizer is someone who convinces people to follow man-made doctrines above the Torah, the Prophets and the Holy Writings (from Psalms to 2 Chronicles according to the Hebrew order, the one recognized by Yeshua and his disciples). Wouldnt all of the NT verses that talk about Gods word be referring to the OT. I will check out Dr Michael Brown. May the hand of YHVH keep us safe! Please let us ALL remember we are united through trusting faith in Messiah Jesus (thanks be to YHWH for that Gift) and unity to me does not require uniformity. Jesus Himself IS our new covenant Torah as we walk in His Holy Spirit of grace!!! Who walk in the law of the L ORD! Clearly this has not happened yet as people who believe in Christ are living according most of Gods instructions/law AND combining them with man-made doctrines/traditions (laws) made from incorrect interpretation of Scripture. 11:3) God => Messiah => man => woman. That doesnt make sense, because we are Israel. Either Gods word is true or it isnt. Amein to that Sharon.. Heres some Scriptures that demonstrate this principle: 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, 16 having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. Both had to add to or take away from scripture & we know that is not good. Program 1. Ironically, many Christians would be quite surprised to find out that Yeshuas half brother, Yaakov (James in English), continued to observe the Torah even after our Lords resurrection. Your error is equating caring/loving responsibility with submission to. Im not saying that by keeping the Law we are saved. So stick the book and live life the way HE wants you to. But they are seem to harbor anger toward people who believe deeply in grace and that the Law is not required as a believer. Show me. Ive posted several rebuttals to your own rebuttals. This also does not remove the possibility that the two choices are the only possible translations or proper contextual interpretations. Jesus Himself holds the keys to death and hades.Read Isa. what I hear and see most Christians act on or quote is that somehow this was a special thing only revealed to the Israelites, and therefore mistakenly conclude that somehow this LAW is now abolished. 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